Hey Lutron. Thanks for all the help over the years. Wait time on phone forced me over here so here's my problemo. I am currently roughing for a new QS job with Palladiom keypads. For all the US style locations standard back box and ganging will work. We have 6 locations i would like to use the 2 column square Palladiom keypads. In the instructions the back boxes for these are not clearly defined. The box shown on the instructions has an ear configuration that i have not seen before. Can you give me a spec? also in my Keypad wiring loops we are bound by the 10 Keypad per loop or Hrun. Is the square 2 column still counted as 1 Keypad in the wiring loop? Thanks for the help-Dim