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    What is the difference between AYCL-153PH and TGCL-153PH?

    What is the difference between AYCL-153PH and TGCL-153PH?
    o Both are listed as "single pole/3-way."
    o Have the same power rating (150W LED, 600W halogen).
    I have a whole house filled with the AYCLs, but I needed another one for a lighting change and all local box store had was the TGCL. At least the switch looks the same. The AYCL is packaged as from the Ariadni model family.

    Since I can't see a difference in what's visible to the user, is there a functional difference or a different quality? Both are listed on the Lutron site.
    https://www.lutron.com/en-US/Product...#SectionHead25

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    Quote Originally Posted by SerottaD View Post
    What is the difference between AYCL-153PH and TGCL-153PH?
    o Both are listed as "single pole/3-way."
    o Have the same power rating (150W LED, 600W halogen).
    I have a whole house filled with the AYCLs, but I needed another one for a lighting change and all local box store had was the TGCL. At least the switch looks the same. The AYCL is packaged as from the Ariadni model family.

    Since I can't see a difference in what's visible to the user, is there a functional difference or a different quality? Both are listed on the Lutron site.
    https://www.lutron.com/en-US/Product...#SectionHead25
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    Jan 15, 2024 update: I found under a 2019 (!) thread "Ariadni and Toggler are the same product. For some reason, Lutron uses the name Toggler in some areas."
    https://forums.lutron.com/showthread...essor-products
    Seems crazy to sustain confusing product names for 4 years. Ariadni sounds better to me. Toggler sounds like the vehicle Batman drove in the latest movie.

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    Also found this from 2017: "Toggler is distributed through retail channels, Ariadni is distributed through electrical distributors. You may find Ariadni at some of the big box home improvement stores."
    This is useful context. I bought an entire house-worth of LED dimmers online, and that must have been from a distributor (AYCL). My one-off project I needed to finish today so Home Depot I went on a Saturday night. Apart from looking for someone to get into the locked cage in a deserted store, it looks like they are the same product. I guess the different part number supports contractor pricing.
    https://forums.lutron.com/showthread...riadni-dimmers

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    Hello. Thank you for reaching out to Lutron. These are two different part numbers for the same model.

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    This is text of reply to case I submitted to Lutron support

    "Thank you for contacting the Lutron Technical Support Team with your inquiry! The only difference between the two is where they were originally able to be purchased;
    one is from Lowe's and the other is from Home Depot. However, now both models are available from either as well as certain other big box stores as well as local
    electrical retailers. Aside from the model numbers, the devices are identical.

    ...
    Kenny P.

    Technical Support
    Lutron Electronics Co., Inc.
    7200 Suter Road | Coopersburg, PA | 18036 | USA
    www.lutron.com

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