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    M1 Macs and Lutron Software

    Can't find any threads on this yet, so...Apple will be moving all of its computers to its own silicon, starting with the M1 chip in the new MacBook Pros and Mac Minis. Most of us who use Macs run Lutron programming software just fine in Parallels or a similar virtual machine just fine. Parallels is working on a version that will run on M1 Macs, but it will only run the ARM version of Windows. It's unlikely they'll be able to create a version that will run Intel x86 Windows on an ARM chip.So, the question is whether Lutron is thinking about the future of its programming software and how to support non-x86 machines? I think it's increasingly likely that other chip architectures, especially ARM, will proliferate in modern portables. The new Macs can run iOS apps, as they use pretty much the same chip. Will Lutron consider turning their iOS/mobile apps into full-fledged programming environments? Or will we all be scrounging eBay for old Intel laptops 5 years from now to keep our old Inclusive software running?

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    I don't know for certain anything I am about to say- it's just conjecture.

    The RadioRA2 Main repeater is very old this point, and so is the software. It has been built on for a decade now. I think Lutron has a new RA2 Main with built-in cloud capabilities coming in the not-so-distant future. I would also expect it to come with significantly refined software.

    I doubt the current incarnation can be easily recompiled for ARM because it is such a complex application, but the next generation of software will almost certainly be able to handle ARM.

    I don't think Lutron will build out the Connect app to be a programming app. The larger systems are intended to be dealer-programmed and use the dealer model so I would doubt they would throw that away. If I were a client I would be very frustrated to know that the programming software is on my phone, but locked out in software. I also don't want to program a 150 device system with a phone app.

    Using old computers to interface with old systems is not a new thing. I have an older BMW that needs diagnostic software that only runs on Windows XP.

    X86 Windows machines will be around for quite a while. I wouldn't worry about X86 becoming extinct in 2-3 years. Think more 10-15.
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    ARM Windows will run in emulation 32 bit Intel apps now and 64 bit is in beta. So the Lutron software might need some attention but it should be able to run eventually.

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    and fortunately it's not that demanding an app, so it may run in emulation on ARM for Windows in a virtual machine on an M1 Mac. But seriously.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw View Post
    Can't find any threads on this yet, so...Apple will be moving all of its computers to its own silicon, starting with the M1 chip in the new MacBook Pros and Mac Minis. Most of us who use Macs run Lutron programming software just fine in Parallels or a similar virtual machine just fine. Parallels is working on a version that will run on M1 Macs, but it will only run the ARM version of Windows. It's unlikely they'll be able to create a version that will run Intel x86 Windows on an ARM chip.So, the question is whether Lutron is thinking about the future of its programming software and how to support non-x86 machines? I think it's increasingly likely that other chip architectures, especially ARM, will proliferate in modern portables. The new Macs can run iOS apps, as they use pretty much the same chip. Will Lutron consider turning their iOS/mobile apps into full-fledged programming environments? Or will we all be scrounging eBay for old Intel laptops 5 years from now to keep our old Inclusive software running? Official website
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