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  1. #1
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    #HVAC Commands?

    I'm having an error issue with HVAC commands that I don't get. I have a funky system, 24 zone of heating with only 10 zones of cooling so some cooling zone incorporate multiple heating zones. This group in particular is one cooling zone with 6 heating zones and I'm using 6 remote Touch Pro TStats all set up for heating and cooling, local sensor and a SeeTemp in each heating zone so 6 of those. Now when in cooling I only really have what I call the main or master cooling TStat and with an AMX processor I sync all six to the same cooling setting and operating mode. So any of this groups SeeTemps should read what the master cooling TStat is set to and changing any of these SeeTemps will affect all even though only the master is connected to the cooling equipment.

    So far while this is screwy the logic and design should work if not for an error I keep getting when updating some of these zones.

    So my problem is in this sequence INT ID 177 & 181. I'm sending both on these TStats heating/cooling set points of 70/76 and I get the errors seen below. Note this isn't the real order of events, I organized them to make it more readable. So WTF is this invalid heating cooling minimum set point value crap? Is there a setting somewhere I may have set to give the these particular TStats different limits? They all update as expected except for these two returning the error so any insight would be appreciated. I've been meaning to call TS but I got no cell coverage, not even outside. TIA!


    Code:
    RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,178,2,70,76$0D$0A~HVAC,178,16,21.11,24.44$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    
    
    QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,177,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,179,2,65,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,180,2,68,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,181,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,173,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    
    
    TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,177,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,179,2,65,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,180,2,68,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,181,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,173,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    
    
    (for INT ID 177)
    RX: STR-[ ~ERROR,4$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    RX: STR-[ Diag Error On Line 5916 of hvac_zone_class.cpp$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    RX:(Logged In), UNKOWN STRING-[ Diag Error On Line 5916 of hvac_zone_class.cpp$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1891>
    RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    RX: STR-[ HVAC Zone: Invalid minimum heat cool setpoint value.$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    RX:(Logged In), UNKOWN STRING-[ HVAC Zone: Invalid minimum heat cool setpoint value.$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1891>
    RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    
    
    RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,179,2,65,76$0D$0A~HVAC,179,16,18.33,24.44$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,180,2,68,76$0D$0A~HVAC,180,16,20.00,24.44$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    
    
    (for INT ID 181)
    RX: STR-[ ~ERROR,4$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    RX: STR-[ Diag Error On Line 5916 of hvac_zone_class.cpp$0D$0AHVAC Zone: Invalid minimum heat cool setpoint value.$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    RX:(Logged In), UNKOWN STRING-[ Diag Error On Line 5916 of hvac_zone_class.cpp$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1891>
    RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    RX:(Logged In), UNKOWN STRING-[ HVAC Zone: Invalid minimum heat cool setpoint value.$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1891>
    RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    
    
    RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,173,2,70,76$0D$0A~HVAC,173,16,21.11,24.44$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    VAV
    Danbury, CT

  2. #2
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    In case anyone cares about the real order of event and their timing.....
    Code:
    Line      9 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,178,2,70,76$0D$0A~HVAC,178,16,21.11,24.44$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     10 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 2 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     11 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC ZONE-[ Bed 4 HVAC ], SET POINTS-[ 70-76 ] :DEBUG<2154>
    Line     12 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], INT ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 2 ], GRP_INTID-[ 177 ], GRP_INDX-[ 1 ], INTID_INDX-[ 10 ] :DEBUG<2193>
    Line     13 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,177,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    Line     14 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,177,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    Line     15 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], INT ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 2 ], GRP_INTID-[ 178 ], GRP_INDX-[ 2 ] :DEBUG<2185>
    Line     16 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], INT ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 2 ], GRP_INTID-[ 179 ], GRP_INDX-[ 3 ], INTID_INDX-[ 12 ] :DEBUG<2193>
    Line     17 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,179,2,65,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    Line     18 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], INT ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 2 ], GRP_INTID-[ 180 ], GRP_INDX-[ 4 ], INTID_INDX-[ 13 ] :DEBUG<2193>
    Line     19 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,180,2,68,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    Line     20 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], INT ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 2 ], GRP_INTID-[ 181 ], GRP_INDX-[ 5 ], INTID_INDX-[ 14 ] :DEBUG<2193>
    Line     21 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,181,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    Line     22 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], INT ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 2 ], GRP_INTID-[ 173 ], GRP_INDX-[ 6 ], INTID_INDX-[ 6 ] :DEBUG<2193>
    Line     23 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): QUEUED CMD-[ #HVAC,173,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4452>
    Line     24 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 16 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     25 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TIMELINE_EVENT - Prossessing "Q" :DEBUG<5461>
    Line     26 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,179,2,65,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    Line     27 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,178,18,73,3,3$0D$0A~HVAC,178,19,22.78,1.67,1.67$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     28 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 18 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     29 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 11 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 178 ], ACTION-[ 19 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     30 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~ERROR,4$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     31 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    Line     32 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ Diag Error On Line 5916 of hvac_zone_class.cpp$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     33 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX:(Logged In), UNKOWN STRING-[ Diag Error On Line 5916 of hvac_zone_class.cpp$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1891>
    Line     34 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    Line     35 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ HVAC Zone: Invalid minimum heat cool setpoint value.$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     36 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX:(Logged In), UNKOWN STRING-[ HVAC Zone: Invalid minimum heat cool setpoint value.$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1891>
    Line     37 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    Line     38 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ QNET>  ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     39 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ QNET>  ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     40 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,179,2,65,76$0D$0A~HVAC,179,16,18.33,24.44$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     41 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 12 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 179 ], ACTION-[ 2 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     42 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC ZONE-[ Bath 4 HVAC ], SET POINTS-[ 65-76 ] :DEBUG<2154>
    Line     43 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 12 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 179 ], ACTION-[ 16 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     44 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,179,18,70.50,5.50,5.50$0D$0A~HVAC,179,19,21.39,3.06,3.06$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     45 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 12 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 179 ], ACTION-[ 18 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     46 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 12 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 179 ], ACTION-[ 19 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     47 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TIMELINE_EVENT - Prossessing "Q" :DEBUG<5461>
    Line     48 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,180,2,68,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    Line     49 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ QNET>  ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     50 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,180,2,68,76$0D$0A~HVAC,180,16,20.00,24.44$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     51 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 13 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 180 ], ACTION-[ 2 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     52 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC ZONE-[ Bath 3 HVAC ], SET POINTS-[ 68-76 ] :DEBUG<2154>
    Line     53 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 13 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 180 ], ACTION-[ 16 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     54 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,180,18,72,4,4$0D$0A~HVAC,180,19,22.22,2.22,2.22$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     55 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 13 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 180 ], ACTION-[ 18 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     56 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 13 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 180 ], ACTION-[ 19 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     57 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TIMELINE_EVENT - Prossessing "Q" :DEBUG<5461>
    Line     58 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,181,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    Line     59 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~ERROR,4$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     60 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    Line     61 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ Diag Error On Line 5916 of hvac_zone_class.cpp$0D$0AHVAC Zone: Invalid minimum heat cool setpoint value.$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     62 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX:(Logged In), UNKOWN STRING-[ Diag Error On Line 5916 of hvac_zone_class.cpp$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1891>
    Line     63 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    Line     64 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX:(Logged In), UNKOWN STRING-[ HVAC Zone: Invalid minimum heat cool setpoint value.$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1891>
    Line     65 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: ERROR-[ Parameter data out of range ] :DEBUG<2749>
    Line     66 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ QNET>  ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     67 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TIMELINE_EVENT - Prossessing "Q" :DEBUG<5461>
    Line     68 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): TX: DEVICE-[ 0:4:0 ], STR-[ #HVAC,173,2,70,76 ] :DEBUG<4497>
    Line     69 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ QNET>  ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     70 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,173,2,70,76$0D$0A~HVAC,173,16,21.11,24.44$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    Line     71 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 6 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 173 ], ACTION-[ 2 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     72 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC ZONE-[ Turret HVAC ], SET POINTS-[ 70-76 ] :DEBUG<2154>
    Line     73 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): HVAC, INDEX-[ 6 ], MATCHED INTEGRATION ID-[ 173 ], ACTION-[ 16 ] :DEBUG<2132>
    Line     74 2019-06-21 (13:13:09)::  LUTRON AXI DEBUG (1): RX: STR-[ ~HVAC,173,18,73,3,3$0D$0A~HVAC,173,19,22.78,1.67,1.67$0D$0A ] :DEBUG<1830>
    VAV
    Danbury, CT

  3. #3
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    I decided to see if there was any new SW but all there was was the beta 14.4.0 but in reading its release notes I saw it addressed another issue I was having regarding H48 dimmers randomly failing to update anytime I did a file transfer. This was particular annoying too but of course I was looking at my wiring, termination, changed processor links etc but all to no avail. Since the release notes mentioned this type of issue I updated and of course the problem disappeared and happily the #HVAC errors disappeared too although there was no mention of this error at all in the release notes. Now everything is working perfectly and I only wasted about a day between all the BS testing, rewriting code, trying different commands, re-wiring, etc, etc, etc. Sadly this reminds me of my first HW project some 20+ years ago. On that job I could not activate my H48 dimmers, maybe some would, others wouldn't, random, made no sense and of course being my first system I tried everything, assuming it was my fault, bad serial connection, what ever, until I called TS and apparently I had received dimmers with a different spec opto isloator built in so I had to get newer H48 boards. That was two guys for a full day wasted but hey Lutron did give me a half dozen screw drivers. All I can say it this **** has gotten old! I can handle my own F ups but a company the size of Lutron still shows little QC before releasing products or software. If you have a basic RF only system SW rev 13.3.0 is probably ok but if you're doing anything out of the ordinary be careful. Any H48 boards/devices and T=Stats with 3rd party integration you should update to the beta before 13.3.0 bites you in the *** and costs you time and money!
    VAV
    Danbury, CT

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