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I successfully integrated control of wireless RTS roller blinds with SOMFY motors from both a hwqs and an hwi systems.
It took some time and effort to put together the xls driver file for illuminations but it was worth it. It have raise, lower, stop, intermediate position commands for all 16 groups.
I'll happily share the driver and details should anyone be interested. I accept payment in kind. Beer comes to mind but in in France so that might be tricky.
I am working on a system with Homeworks 8 processors(H8P5-MI-H48-120 and HRP5-120) that has both QED and Somfy RTS motors. The Lutron equipment is controlled via Lutron keypads, the Somfy via Trelis RF remotes. Ideally, I would like to control everything from the Lutron iPad App. Does you driver allow that and what do I need in order to do it?
You need an RS232 to RS485 adapter (like this one http://www.amazon.com/RS485-RS232-Co...+adapter+RS485) and the somfy RS485 RTS transmitter (http://www.somfysmarthome.co.uk/Reso...r_Brochure.pdf).
You may need gender changers and/or null modem adapters in DB9 format.
If you need more than 16 groups you'll need to daisy chain several transmitters. My driver does not allow that as it uses broadcast codes (instead of codes linked to the unique ID of every transmitter).
And that's it. The driver gives you Raise, Lower, Stop, and even "My" position commands.
I already purchased the Somfy URTSI II which has RS-484 as well. Can I use it instead the Somfy RS485 transmitter? How much is your driver?
I am new to Homeworks Illumination; all I am trying to do is enable iPad integration with the processor. If I understand correctly, the RS-485 adapter connects to the RS232 port on the Homeworks processor and then to the Somfy RTS interface. What is involved in configuring the Lutron processor? I already extracted the original file and modified it for the Lutron App.
You can use this unit as well, but the command set is very different. In fact, the URTSI II control strings are much more convenient than the transmitter's.
So, my driver won't be of any use. On the other hand you don't need the RS485 adapter if the smoky module is reasonably near the processor. RS232 can do 10 meters or so without a problem, 9600bps is not too fast.
It seems that this page lists what's needed !
http://www.automatedshadestore.com/s...I_-pid324.html
Thank You!
Thanks to your help I am able to control the Somfy shades with the URTSI connected to the Homeworks 8 processor. Since it is a large residence I have to add two more URTSI units in order to cover the entire place. One will be in the AV Closet and the other two at the two ends of the residence. I have a single cat6 going to each location. The schematics for Somfy RS-485 connection show the URTS units daisy chained, which would not be possible in my case unless I use two pairs of the cat6(one for up, one for downstream). Do you know by any chance if RS-485 allows for a "star" configuration? Instead of running one pair of the cat6 cable wires from the closet to the second URTSI and then another pair from the second to the third I want to split the + and the - from the first and send it simultaneously to the 2nd and 3rd URTSI units. Would that work?
I realize this is probably too late, but yes the Star configuration will work. However, you can only have one URTSI Transmit at a time. Contact me with any questions.
Jim - Somfy.
Hi! can you send me an example code that you use? Or even better - your spreadsheet?
Thank you!
wally *at* avcphuket.com
edit to add - I'll send you beer!!!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbju1kbtd5...Commandes.xlsx
What brand of beer ?
In the programming instructions for the Somfy Connect LTI (translator), it appears that you can only associate "map" a RA2 keypad button press with only one Somfy motor (channel).? Is it possible to associate "map" more than one Somfy motor (channel) per key press?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Hellander
. . . . to integrate the somfy RS485 shade motor with Lutron QED 7 wire system which is already in place and operating other shades? The shades that were previously in this location have been discarded. I was told the Lutron QED system is obsolete and needs to be replaced. Hoping that the Lutron QED can communicate through 2 of the remaining 5 wires - any insight will be greatly appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by mehuneau
Sorry for resurrecting this post but I'm having difficulty controlling 16 Somfy RTS blinds from a Homeworks QS system through a 485 RTS transmitter. Lutron had told me to work it through a Digi SP one, ethernet to RS485 convertor however, now that I have this unit Lutron are not providing any support. I have found a Lutron document which lists the settings of the Digi SP One but I still have no control over the Sonfy RTS transmitter.
If your module will pull me out of this one I am happy to pay for the module
Many thanks in advance
What kind is your 485 RTS transmitter ?Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenmayne
from my experience, you need a couple of things :
- an USB to RS485 adapter (or USB to RS232 plus 232 to 485). Try a null modem dongle if it does not work. Or switch RX and TX.
- the RTS demo tool from Somfy, pretty hard to source. Enables you to connect the PC to the transmitter and test the thing. Plus it’s the most convenient way to create your 16 groups and program motors to be part of these.
The tool will detect the transmitter. You just have to choose the correct COM port.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fpb3djjl4...JOJDdYQva?dl=0
- then when this is confirmed functioning, you need to setup the Digi unit just right :
4800, odd, 8 data, 1 stop (the odd parity is so unusual)
Here’s the link to the CSV file for QS
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bx9q7foyol...%20QS.csv?dl=0
Thanks for the quick response! I have the demo tool and can operate the blinds when connected USB to the Somfy RS485 RTS Transmitter (https://controlissblinds.co.uk/somfy...ts-transmitter - Which is hard to find on Somfys site)
The digi seems to connect and I have tried sending commands similar to this (may be the same) that I got from the RS485 frame builder but I am getting nothing. Do you know what pin out the 9 pin should be? I'm getting conflicting info everywhere I look and feel that I might be stumbling at this point
I’d go on a limb and suggest 2/3 and 5 for the usual RX TX GND, but I would triple check on the digi documentation.Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenmayne
There are two ways to generate control frames. One will be to insert the serial number of the RTS transmitter, used for multi-drop configurations when several of these are daisy chained to the same RS485 link. For when one needs more than 16 groups, or if the house is laaarge.
I chose to generate broadcast frames. From then on it’s mainly a matter of formatting into the correct format for QS to understand. But i did that. Want me to double check the file I’m using ?
https://forums.lutron.com/attachment...ntid=665&stc=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/24ic91okjc...01-03.csv?dl=0
This file has the Open Stop Close and My commands for groups 1 to 3. Sinc it isn’t complete, I suspect my previous file was not working, and I never had the use for groups 4 and up in QS.
Anyway, this should work with your RTS transmitter, and give you a template for groups 4 to 16.
(If you complete the file, I’m interested ;-) )
https://forums.lutron.com/attachment...ntid=666&stc=1
The digi was a replacement to another serial port server, and port 3000 might very well not be de default on the digi